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- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
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- October 19th, 1992
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
- Borman, David / Cray Research
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- AGENDA
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- 1) Administivia
- o Role Call
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Approval of the Minutes
- o Date of next IESG Teleconference
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- 2) Protocol Action
- o IP over FDDI to Draft
- o Network Time Protocol V3 to Draft Standard
- o Token Ring MIB
- o Concise MIB definitions to Draft
- o IP Addressing Guidelines
- o RIP Version 2
- o RIP Version 2 MIB
- o RIP Protocol Analysis
- o Ident, Ident MIB
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- 4) Technical Management Issues
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- o SMTP Extensions
- o ROAD Activities
- o New IESG Area Directors
- o Better Technical review/guidance (continuation)
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- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Approval of the Minutes
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- The IESG approved the minutes of the October 1th Teleconference.
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- o Next Meeting
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- The IESG set dates for October 23, 11am-1pm ET, November 2nd and
- November 9th 12-2 ET.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- o IP over FDDI
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- A revised version of the IP over FDDI Specification was posted as an
- Internet Draft reflecting updates to the protocol specification to
- match the current use of the protocol. In particular, references to
- dual MAC use were deleted and support of hardware type 6 was
- dropped, a relic of RFC 1103.
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- The IESG discussed the requirements for Draft and Standard status
- and how IP over FDDI satisfied these requirements. Discussion on
- the general issue is recorded in the technical management section of
- these minutes. IP over FDDI was approved for Full Standard.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB requesting that
- IP over FDDI published as a Draft Standard protocol.
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- o Network Time Protocol
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- The Network Time Protocol has remained in grade long enough to be
- advanced to Draft Standard status. The IESG and RFC Editor have
- agreed that the Postscript document can remain the primary document
- given the current sub-optimal ASCII specification. The IESG is
- aware of two implementations of the protocol, one for the Fuzzball
- and one for generic Unix platforms. It is not clear whether these
- implementations are sufficiently independent for elevation for Draft
- Standard.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the two NTP implementations and determine
- if these implementations are sufficiently independent to validate the
- specification as required for Draft Standard.
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- o Token Ring MIB
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- Work is still underway to determine if the Token Ring MIB has
- sufficient implementation experience to be elevated to Draft
- Standard.
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- o Concise MIB Definitions
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- The IESG review RFC 1212, "Concise MIB Definitions" and approved a
- recommendation to elevate it to Standard status. This MIB format
- extensions should be considered part of the SMI standard and should
- be given the same requirement level as SNMP itself, recommended.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Chuck Davin, write and send a recommendation
- to the IAB to elevate RFC 1212 to Standard.
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- o IP Addressing Guidelines
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- The IESG discussed the IP Addressing Proposal and the comments
- received early in the last call period. It appears that this
- document may have been sent to the IESG a bit pre-maturely and may
- not have the necessary consensus.
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- ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Investigate and report on the consensus for
- the specific IP addressing guidelines contained in the IP Addressing
- Guidelines document.
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- There is an ongoing discussion with the IAB about the choice of
- Proposed Standard as a designation for this document. This is both
- a policy document for the assignment of IP Addresses and a technical
- architecture for CIDR. The IESG is aware that another version of
- this document will be submitted to the Internet Drafts directory
- which may split the document into two. The IESG agreed that the
- addressing guidelines themselves should be an informational document
- that should be adopted as policy by relevant operational bodies.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- List the IP Addressing Guidelines as awaiting a new document and remove it from the IESG agenda.
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- ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Insure that a new version of the IP
- Addressing Guidelines are posted as an Internet Draft.
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- o RIP Version 2
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- There was nothing to report.
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- o Ident, Ident MIB
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- Agreement on the wording about the use of character sets in IDENT
- has been reached and a new version of the document will be posted to
- the Internet Drafts directories shortly.
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
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- o SMTP Extensions
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- After the last IESG communication to the Working Group, it appears
- the group has begun lively discussions and had made significant
- progress on the technical issues raised during the last call.
- Closure still seems elusive and the current impasse seems to be over
- matters of document style and content. It was suggested to the
- Applications AD that intervention would be a good thing, either by
- proposing a strawman solution or actively drawing consensus from the
- current discussion on the mailing list.
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- ACTION: Hobby - Make a strawman proposal or a summary of current
- progress to the working group mailing list to facilitate movement.
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- o Document/Protocol Review
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- The IESG has been working on a standardize checklist to aid in the
- though evaluation of protocols. This checklist has been circulated
- in draft form and with additional edits is intended to be used by
- Working Group chairmen prior to sending a protocol to the IESG.
- Information to be supplied includes a list of implementations and a
- gauge of the operational testing and deployment of a protocol.
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- ACTION: Coya -- Find and send to the IESG the latest checklist
- guidelines for protocol advancement.
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- 2) Poised Working Group Progress
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- The Poised Working Group mailing list has been very active. To help
- channel this activity and facilitate closure on a specific proposal,
- Carl Malamud has been asked to prepare a draft proposal from the
- discussions on the list and discussions with key participants.
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- o New IESG Area Directors
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- With the departure of Noel Chiappa and Susan Estrada, there are
- several openings on the IESG. The IESG has discussed moving OSI
- protocols into the areas where they would naturally fall as a means
- of increasing integration and coordination with the current
- protocols. Moving addressing into the Routing Area was also
- discussed. The IESG discussed an area re-alignment but did not reach
- a firm discussion and scheduled a follow up teleconference for this
- Friday to resolve the remaining issues.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Prepare an agenda for the (mostly) single topic
- November 2th teleconference on IESG structure.
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- Appendix - Action Items
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB requesting that
- IP over FDDI published as a Standard protocol.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the two NTP implementations and determine
- if these implementations are sufficiently independent to validate the
- specification as required for Draft Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Chuck Davin, write and send a recommendation
- to the IAB to elevate RFC 1212 to Standard.
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- ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Investigate and report on the consensus for
- the specific IP addressing guidelines contained in the IP Addressing
- Guidelines document.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- List the IP Addressing Guidelines as Working Group
- Discuss pending a new document.
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- ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Insure that a new version of the IP
- Addressing Guidelines are posted as an Internet Draft.
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- ACTION: Hobby - Make a strawman proposal or a summary of current
- progress to the working group mailing list to facilitate movement.
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- ACTION: Coya -- Find and send to the IESG the latest checklist
- guidelines for protocol advancement.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Prepare an agenda for the (mostly) single topic
- November 2th teleconference on IESG structure
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- Appendix - Mailing List discussions
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- o IP Addressing Guidelines.
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- Discussion has continued on the IP Addressing guidelines document.
- It is clear that an addressing plan like the one proposed is
- necessary for CIDR to operate and that a uniform policy is needed.
- Whether a required policy is a standard is unclear but agreement that
- these guidelines were something that needs to be endorsed by the
- IAB/IESG.
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